6:54 AM - Ganesh Dr: While seeing the centesimal scale range of potencies we find 30C, 200C, 1M(1000C) , 10M(10000C) in the ascending order. Homeopaths has used and accepted it so much that no one questions the order. But what is the logic in using this particular stops, how did Hahnemann arrived at these.... Has he documented any of his thoughts over this issue. Please share your thoughts....
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:13 AM - Balasubramanian: Sir
What is difference between vital force and vital principle.?
Clear my doubts Sir.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:17 AM - Charu Dr: Ganesh ЁЯСН
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:18 AM - Charu Dr: This is one reason why hahnemann moved to lm potencies.
Where the order is 123
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:19 AM - Charu Dr: Due to the gap between each potencies centesimal potencies showed aggravation
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:20 AM - Charu Dr: To minimise it he experimented with water potency in 5th edition and adviced
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:20 AM - Charu Dr: Later he found the solution in 6th through lm
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:21 AM - Charu Dr: Dr luc de schepper explains clearly in his book
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:21 AM - Charu Dr: ЁЯСН
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:21 AM - Charu Dr: Ganesh sir ☺☺☺
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:25 AM - Balasubramanian: Dr.charu
pls Answer my question
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:32 AM - Ganesh Dr: Thank you all for accommodating me here at the unprejudiced observer.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:33 AM - Karthikbabu Dr: To dr.charu sir speed or phase of a remedy if it matches the pathology then 30 potency is more than enough to cure a pt
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:36 AM - Ganesh Dr: @charu I agree to your explanation. But is it right to think LM scale was invented to replace centesimal scale
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:36 AM - Karthikbabu Dr: In every drug Kent mentioned as a pha se and he would have differenciate the remedy from that we can understand clearly
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:36 AM - Karthikbabu Dr: The depth action
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:40 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: Friends ,
ЁЯМ╖ my aim is we have to make homeopathy as simple as possible.
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖we must make It as folk's medicine. Then it grows like anything.
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ Our master Hahnemann solved potency problems in sixth edition by LM potency.
(Kindly some of you can add advantages of LM potency)
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ we must change basic qualification for homeopathy...
(Compassion+ interest)
Doctor sivakumaran
www.doctorsivakumaran.blogspot.com
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 7:53 AM - Ilandhirayan: <Media omitted>
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 8:06 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: For all interested peoples
Please read aphorism 246 and its footnote in 6th edition
Buy
Organon of the medical art Wenda Brewster O'Reilly
It's ISBN is 9788131909225 bjain publisher.
Original and complete translation of organon...
Nice book... Must read..
Please....
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 8:29 AM - Charu Dr: Vital principle = param porul
Vital force = uyir aatral
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:18 AM - Surendran: ЁЯСМ mr.charu
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:27 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: @Dr.Srini this s not place for making comedies and funny comments. Don't post any again here. If means come to our group.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:33 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: @ charu.Dr here, pace means for example in sudden fast developing acutes we can't think slow remedies like calc, have to think ars.. So that desired result must ensue.. Like fast syphilitic cases..
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:33 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Semparuthi sir itha tha mean panar
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:34 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: But it doesn't mean calc give slow results. If pt needs calc it may work fast..
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:34 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Ex. Arul Manickam case which recently posted
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:34 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Both r different scenario
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:35 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Prafull. Dr emphasising how to select medicine. Where should we give importance and were not.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:35 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: That's his ideology...
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:37 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: @Karthick babu if pathology fits 30 potency is enough means, modern stalwarts everyone showing results in various potencies? How is t possible?
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:38 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: For example, ROH. 6, 30
Predictive 200
Rajan various. Sometimes 1,10m and even LM various potencies different usages??
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:39 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: If 30 is fit for all cases higher potency will produce strong aggravations and spoils cases often. So what s need for other potencies?? is t unwanted??
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:41 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: H emphasising worth of diluting in water potencies and LM. Wat is use of his latest technologies?? Is t not use??
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:42 AM - Charu Dr: Dr Saravana, instead of questioning others points, please give your understanding and experienve
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:42 AM - Charu Dr: Experience *
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:42 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: @ganesh Dr.. Charu was right. in my understanding h was moving from centesimal to LM which means switching to new potencies means replacing know?? If my understanding wrong clear t
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:43 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Charu sir ask me clear I can't get ur question
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:44 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Charu sir pace of disease topic was arisen from tat dog case
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:45 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Will explain my understanding and Wat Dr.prafull explained.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:46 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Ilango sir said fever.... To convulsions occur and sudden death leads lead.. Which is psoro syphilitic miasm
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:47 AM - Charu Dr: Explain your understanding alone.
Don't mix with drpraful 's understanding
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:47 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Ganesh sir. Yup like charu told H made an advancement with 6th edition. That's why he told this was his best and complete work in homoeopathy. And why we keep mentioning 5th along is only to encourage 4th edition followed to step up one at a time. Otherwise yes as you note 5th edition administration by 30,200,and so on is way too jumping up in potency . And it has aggravations. And also we can see that the aggravations in 6th edition I mean the homeopathic aggravation is not there in 6th. H effort was towards making second aphorism as 100% as possible. Gentle. Quick heal. The only aggravation seen in LM is the end aggravation . By all this I mean I only mean when the nearest similimum remedy . Not a farther remedy to similimum.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:48 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: In these fast developing acute pathology our selection of medicine could be fast developing / producing drugs will give desired results.. Ex. Ars, sulphur.Iod, sec cor..
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:48 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Sir intha topic la arise aana question ku ithan enaku therinja ans
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:50 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Charu sir???
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:53 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Ganesh sir. I am currently treating a psoriatic graphytis hypersensitive patient. After LM 1 to 2 to 3 there was a mild medicinal aggravation. And i immediately understood it qs because the succession number for the LM1 was only 1❌ 40 equalling only to 40 successions up. And I immediately went back to LM 2 made 40 successions myself and then the medicine was smooth as earlier. I have observed similar scenario in Srinivasan sir clinic when the half went medicine bottle broke. So going back to the same potency or jumping to next both won't be appropriate sir told.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:57 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Sorry LM 1 was 2 successions. It was LM 2 with 1 succession.. Went back to LM 2 ❎ 40 succession instead of LM 3. Note: ofocurse it never equals the actual 100 successions in LM preparation.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:59 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Saravana. Patience.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 9:59 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Dr. Sivakumaran ЁЯСНЁЯСН
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:03 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: To talk about the advantages of LM has not that been done in our basic learning of organon itself. I believe all of us learn from 6th or 5/6 combined editions and not 4th edition. And even after this if most are not following this and finding ways or techniques over potency selection it clearly means they have not following the 6th organon. Dictating again and again about LM will never reach them. Test
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:04 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Restudying organon every time gives more and.more and more little clear understanding.. One at a time.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:06 AM - Semparuthi dr. md: APHORISM 161
HOMEOPATHIC AGGRAVATION INTIAL IN ACUTE DISEASE
When I here limit the so-called homoeopathic aggravation, or rather the primary action of the homoeopathic medicine that seems to increase somewhat the symptoms of the original disease, to the first or few first hours, this is certainly true with respect to diseases of a more acute character and of recent origin;
NO INITIAL AGGRAVATION IN CHRONIC DISEASE CAN APPEAR AT THE END OF TREATMENT
but where medicines of long action have to combat a malady of considerable or very long standing, where no such apparent increase of the original disease ought to appear during treatment and it does not so appear if the accurately chosen medicine was given in proper small, gradually higher doses, each somewhat modified with renewed dynamization (Aph 247).
Such increase of the original symptoms of a chronic disease can appear only at the end of treatment when the cure is almost or quite finished.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:15 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: The current potency selection discussion and methods, need for new and newer techniques and schools which teaches potency selection only implies the advanced homeopathy has not reached all. Right from Kent who is the sole person for the homoeopathy awareness and spread throughout the world.. Did not use or share or advocate the use of water dosing leave centesimal or LM. May be since todays most homeopaths again look up to other such pioneers understanding and teachings to understand organon they are equally blindfolded about the water dosing. Few doctors of today like Dr.Luc de schepper have worked and given us ways to understand the true ripen sweet ultimate fruit of Hahnemann. Wenda o breily translation and Luc books gives a better way to understand and use Hahnemann's final finished product to the best and fullest. And we should be thankful to them .
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:17 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Semparuthi sir . Ty. Yes. End aggravation for chronic diseases. Ty once again. I should have mentioned that too. Sorry all.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:24 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Saravana i understand your doubt and I hope I have answered you. We have to accept this is today. We can work for tomorrow a better one. Right from yesterday's Kent Clarke boger beonighasen none has given us much teachings regarding water dosing. So for today wa
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:24 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Let us work for a better tomorrow.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:30 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: One thing I constantly accept with different schools of homeopathy is the single medicine and their own way of reaching similar one. Else success cant be seen right? But it is the minimal dose that varies with H s final organon.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:31 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: So I think there is nothing to blame anyone so far it is similar and single.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:35 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Boeninghausens generalisation can be applied with every schools... And that is why whatever route or techniques the final arrival is to single similar remedy. My humble opinion is when we have trouble with our skill for a said case take up the help from Such law abiding schools and go with the administration of remedy in your understanding. Ultimate aim is cure but gentle and quick. So go with LM 1 water dosing and repeat as
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:35 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Needed.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:37 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: ЁЯСНЁЯСНЁЯСНЁЯСНhave a good day all ЁЯШДЁЯШД
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:48 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: I understood ka.. My questions for Dr.karthick babu.. For his reply as he above said.. That too says in every methods they r showing results by using various potencies. Ofcourse in detail during follow up how cure happens god only knows.. Most of patients never says even minute changes which occurs during cure. And reasons behind my questions karthick babu was closely moving with Dr.amaretto nikam. So he might come with some valuable reply.. Let's wait
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:49 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: Sorry Dr. Amar. D nikam **
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 10:50 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: My opinion s as like methods every case needs various type of potencies. That too needs individual. This s my understanding
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 11:44 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Again lingering on potency... I'll come up with a patient of mine who taught me some unforgettable lesson regarding potency that changed my outlook on various schools in homeopathy as well medicines which go by natural laws
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 11:45 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Later...
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 11:48 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: ЁЯСН
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 1:11 PM - Karthikbabu Dr: To Saro even (chronic) and (acute) I have treated in 30 potency I have seen the results .and from nikam sir experience I seen many cases too hw it is possible. And I don't want to talk about any stalwarts here.its just my experience.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 1:50 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: I had a osteoarthritic patient. Patella degeneration. She was a typical aurum met. Gold. But aurum in centesimal as well LM both on split water dose dint give much change. I dint know what to do. She was for sure aurum. And I know very well if i go for any other typical pain med it will only be palliation. So I kept it with aurum. I explained her also. And conveyed I am sorry I don't know why the selected is jot working. Then she went to some yoga. No relief. Then some herbal med..i don't remember if it was ayurvedha or sidha ....I had asked her to inform me if she gets relief from any system. She came to me and she said she is better from the herbal med. And she was prescribed with a very costly med as it contained gold. I was like WTH... I gave gold too with no relief. I discussed this with my mentor.. He laughed and said.. This is the beauty of medicines. The patient has required gold or aurum in crude form . So that is why even though you were so right with your selection of remedy you didn't get result. May be aurum in mt in homeopathy might have cured her. Who knows even that could have been not enough for her. She needed the very crudest form.
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 1:51 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: First 30c as i dint have LM Aurum that time. next time went to LM 1 and further...
Sat, 8 Aug 2015, 1:55 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: This experience completely changed my perception on potency. This was years back. Now straight away LM.
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