What is your opinion about the present trends in
Homoeopathy as regards various Approach, hypothesis
and beliefs with respect to - classical homoeopathy
equivalent to single dose and single remedy etc ?
Jan scholten:
The concept of "Classical Homeopathy" is poorly
defined. Some homeopaths use it as doing homeopathy
the same way as Hahnemann or Kent. In that sense I
am not a classical homeopath. Some use "Classical
Homeopathy" as being equivalent to prescribing single
remedies. In that sense I am classical. But the whole
idea of single remedies has no good grounds in the laws
of homeopathy. So it could turn out in the future that
"single remedies" do not belong to the core of
Homeopathy.
(Interview continued) .....
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 12:03 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: The most disturbing part of the whole interview is ЁЯСЖ ЁЯШ│ЁЯШ│ЁЯШ│
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 12:05 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Further explanations might dissolve various confusions that can come from this particular statement. Is there any??
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 5:45 PM - Murali Castro: ) Please tell me in brief status of Homoeopathy
includes your personal experience or problems you have
faced in Homoeopathic Practice in Netherland.
Jan scholten :
Homeopathy shows several developments. As a social
phenomenon it is at one hand under many attacks, of
the media, journals and television. This is not typical for
Holland, it can be seen all over the world. The summit
of this tendency has been the article in the Lancet, a
meta analysis about homeopathy. The conclusion was
there that homeopathy was placebo. But the conclusion
was based on a selection of the reviewed researches.
The selection as such was not described and it was not
made clear on which grounds the selection was made.
So it was very unscientific. The curious thing is how
such a "renowned" journal make such obvious faults.
And the curious thing is that it was front page news in
the journals, in contrast with four former meta analysis
which show definitely that homeopathy cannot be
placebo. They were poorly or not at all covered in the
media. So there is some force working in society
against homeopathy.
Some homeopaths look for the cause of those attacks
within homeopathy. For instance, Vithoulkas is blaming
the new developments of homeopathy like Sankaran and
me for homeopathy being under attack. This is a
tendency often seen when a minority group is under
attack: they divide and start blaming the other groups in
order to get acceptance from the majority. In history
this has happened with many religious groups. It only
does not work. The majority will attack the divided
group with even more ease.
These media attacks have also influenced partly the
people, less people are visiting homeopaths. So some
homeopath have stopped their practice in the
Netherlands.
At the other hand homeopathy as a science is
developing enormously. The results are getting better
and better, for more severe diseases. The understanding
of remedies has deepened and many more remedies
have become known.
(Interview continued) .....
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 8:06 PM - Sivakumuran Dr: ЁЯУЦHow many of you having the thought that homeopathic science doesn't need drug proving in healthy human being???
ЁЯУЦЁЯУЦ Developing imaginary materia medica on themes and like novel stories will give real growth to homeopathy???
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 8:27 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: 1.No drug proving is equal to science killed. 2. Imaginary materia medica ?? Is there one as such?!?! My understanding. Developing themes are not like writing imaginary novels. It is done from combining various materia medicall sources of a drug and then conjugating a picture for that drug. Yes it is conjugation. But science accepts and grows from conjugations also. It is difficult to completely agree to this concept. Yet the many success time and again proves that they have worked only because they fitted the natural law of similia.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 8:31 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Had they not fitted to the natural law they would have ended an utter failure. Of course personally I still have conflicts regarding this conjugation. Not denying. But we need not be so rigid and blindfolded to the immense work and success that follows that side.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 8:36 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Regarding isonodes that is speedily spreading with great success too in the area of vaccine injuries in specific.. I had too many confusions. How is it right to simply antidote a vaccine with the isonode and so on.... But the success esp with autism is so remarkable. That is when my mentor told me to go to Hahnemann for clarification. The foot note to isopathy where he briefs regarding vaccination.... Still I am trying to understand to come to one solid solution. But in vain.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 8:52 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Is it conjunction or conjugation... I type the former but my auto dictionary selects the later . ЁЯШа
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 8:52 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Sorry.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 8:54 PM - Karuppaiah Dr: Just now i think about it. Nice.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 9:00 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: What you thought of sir??
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 9:00 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Auto dictionary sometimes romba kaala vaarudu. Watodo ЁЯШ│ЁЯШв
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:12 PM - Sivakumuran Dr: ЁЯШнЁЯШ│Patent drugs also conjunction and finally it become single Drug ЁЯШ░
Dr.Prema
ЁЯМ╖Check calcarea and sulphur
Is not equal to hepar sulph
In drug proving,, in healthy human beings.
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖
It is good , that conjunction of two or more elements before proving.
Conjunction After proving !¡!!!!!!?????
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖
Even I am having idea to make potency from patent drug. We can consider combination of homeopathic drugs as source (like mother tinctures)
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:18 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Agree Doctor.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:23 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Combining two single remedies to form another is not what I am telling. Proposing more then Single remedy from the Interview is highly disturbing , as I mentioned above.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:32 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: But the periodic table theory is not combining two single remedies as such. It is first deduction of group remedies. This has been done by many previous homeopaths too. And combining or matching such two group theory can not equal combining two remedies as such. . I have not personally studied any of these methods or theories. But have only enquired and listened to from friends. And so I cant be useful for this discussion . My sincere apology to the group to have blabbered.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:32 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: ЁЯШ╢ЁЯШ╢ЁЯШ╢
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:40 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: But one thing I am clear. Any medical intervention if it can bring cure and not suppression or mere palliation could have happened only because it acted according to natural law of similia. This includes any medicine nt just homeopathy. ЁЯШДЁЯШД
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:44 PM - Charu Dr: I would like to say,
If we have any misconceptions or doubts in new methods, just try to learn them to the core, practice it sincerely atleast for 3years to the core, analyse it and come out with a conclusion. Just as what hahnemann did.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:45 PM - Charu Dr: Instead opposing Blaming without learning them to the core is not acceptable.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:48 PM - Charu Dr: I am not a follower of any particular methods, but I have tried to learn every possible methods, I am using it in my understanding.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:49 PM - Charu Dr: I can definitely say, every methods has its own merits and Demerits.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:49 PM - Charu Dr: But it is our responsibility to know where to apply what...
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:51 PM - Charu Dr: Fish can be caught through fish net
Same can be done for mosquitoes.
But elephant cannot be caught by same...
It is jus like that
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 10:57 PM - Ganesh Dr: This discussion is going in a useful manner... could be elaborated more on their pros and cons by other group members with rich experience in these new schools.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 11:00 PM - Charu Dr: Sir specify a topic for elaboration
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 11:03 PM - Ganesh Dr: Even the practitioners themselves could have some intriguing questions over the system they practice. Similarly they could also have repeatedly tested and confirmed some concepts of phenomena. They can be discussed.
Fri, 21 Aug 2015, 11:04 PM - Ganesh Dr: *concepts or phenomena
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 7:35 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: To charu
Yes,
I practised new tricks and propagated to many students too from 2003 to 2005.
Of course
I got some good results...
But...
Later I realised it is gambling.
Of course new trials is good for researchers, not advisable for clinicians and fresher's.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 7:40 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: Charu
I like your philosophy
Fish can be caught through fish net
Same can be done for mosquitoes.
But elephant cannot be caught by same...
It is jus like that
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 7:58 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: Any how my question is simple...
ЁЯУЦHow many of you having the thought that homeopathic science doesn't need drug proving in healthy human being???
ЁЯУЦЁЯУЦ Developing imaginary materia medica on themes and like novel stories will give real growth to homeopathy???
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 7:58 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: Charu
Do you think here after homeopathic science doesn't need drug proving in healthy human being???
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:03 AM - Surendran: ЁЯСМdr.charu & dr.sivakumaran
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:08 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Of course new trials is good for researchers, not advisable for clinicians and fresher's.////? Agree. That is why Hahnemann insisted his works - the clinical practice not be brought to publish. His most practice was experiments. If he had given two remedies at a time or taken two alternative remedies on himself..... He did that as an experiment. And the results he told us in organon. So our best lesson is from his results and not the experiment itself.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:10 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: C
Do you think here after homeopathic science doesn't need drug proving in healthy human being???
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:11 AM - Sulaimankhan: It is must
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:14 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: If the current scenario continues this question will become inevitable to explain.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:16 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: We can pose these questions to the stalwarts in their seminars. Good question Dr.Suvakaumar. . I will have this in mind.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:01 AM - Charu Dr: My thought is, healthy
Human drug proving will always be a fundamental, essential, unavoidable phenomenon in homoeopathy.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:03 AM - Charu Dr: But, the chances might become less for conducting the drug proving as similar to hahnemannian period.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:04 AM - Charu Dr: Later there will become a less requirements or nill requirements.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:07 AM - Charu Dr: scholten, rajan sankaran new concepts of understanding materia medica have given some drug pictures of many unproven drugs and have confirmed the symptomatology with drug proving
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:08 AM - Charu Dr: Since All materia medica are incomplete, which indirectly means provings
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:35 AM - Charu Dr: We all see the unchanged principles of Homoeopathy, but on the other side ie the patients / human they are basically human but their form, circumstances (§5) and their cellular response to the circumstances have changed.
So I believe that the application methods of the principles on them also needs to be changed
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:36 AM - Charu Dr: Thus, the new concepts and methods are helpful.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:36 AM - Karuppaiah Dr: Dr. Charu!
Can you clarify whether the scholten remedies are proved?
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:36 AM - Charu Dr: Sir, not all.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 12:27 PM - Murali Castro: ) Whats your view towards Necessity for reproving of homoeopathic medicines which were proved during
Hahnemannian time ? Is it really necessary and if yes does it bring change in our Materia Medica with new discoveries ?
Jan scholten :
One can do many provings if one wants. Everyone is free
to choose a remedy and do a proving of it, be the
remedy old or new. It is always good too see those
provings published.
Every new proving of an "old" remedy will be different
from the old picture. Provings are not the remedy, they
are "views" of a remedy and views will differ. The
essence of a remedy will always be the same, but if the
proving will discover that depends on many factors.
One can compare provings with pictures of a plant in its
different stages of development: a young plant looks
different form one in full blossom and that will be
different from one in decay, but it is still the same plant.
(Interview continued .....)
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 4:55 PM - Charu Dr: True
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 7:41 PM - Murali Castro: ) Is there any necessity for up gradation of 6th
edition of Organon of Medicine ?
Jan scholten :
One look at an upgrade of the Organon 6 from
several points of view. But my basic one is to
leave the Organon as it is. It is a historical text
and as such good for what it is. A new textbook
of homeopathy is needed all the time, as
homeopathy is in development.
One can compare it with physics. The writings
of Newton are not upgraded. But his basic ideas
are reformulated in even better ways and
additions are made to them in new modern
textbooks. The writings of Newton as such are
hardly read by students in physics, because
there are much better textbooks, written in
modern language and thus better
understandable.
(Interview continued ....)......
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:09 PM - Murali Castro: If We are stick to the proved drugs and against to scolten and rajon shankaren method" how can ancient time borieck.clark.farrington.patalk gave success in their practice through based on lot of clinicaly verrified symptoms which is not proving symptom.--Dr.arulmanickam
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:34 PM - Karuppaiah Dr: Is any modern homeopath having talent to modify or add or amend organon?
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:35 PM - Charu Dr: As scholten clearly said, leave the organon as it is, it is the basement.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:36 PM - Charu Dr: What ever we discover should be grounded on organon and it's philosophy.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:42 PM - Karuppaiah Dr: Charu! Hahnemann modified or corrected his organon for 5 times for what purpose?
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:46 PM - Charu Dr: For Refine his philosophy,
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:52 PM - +91 98843 46007: Just for imagination if hahnemann alive now which organon edition ??
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:53 PM - Karuppaiah Dr: Yes.
He was a experimenter. He experienced lot of things through provings and added and appended in his philosophy.
Now, it is lacking. And nobody is having courage to amend organon through their experiment.
So, Organon is stable!
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:55 PM - Charu Dr: It is not a matter of courage, it is a sign of respect for organon and hahnemann.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:56 PM - Charu Dr: That's why I didn't attempted amend organon ЁЯШЙ
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 8:57 PM - Charu Dr: But still every one practices according to their own organon
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:28 PM - Sivakumuran Dr: But....
As a scientist His inventions is correct.
In the name of homeopathy it is not correct.
(But happy he using dynamic minimum medicine at a time.)
Simply say, it is not homeopathy at all.
It is correct for researchers and homeopathic seminar speakers....
Students and clinicians and who sincere to homeopathy clearly know it is not homeopathy. ( if at all they read organon into its core)
Thank you all.
But his work is noble one.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 9:46 PM - Karuppaiah Dr: ЁЯСП
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:16 PM - Charu Dr: Sivakumaran sir ЁЯСН,
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:18 PM - Charu Dr: Why scholten's discovery cannot be called as homoeopathy
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:21 PM - Sivakumuran Dr: Recently I went to one clinic.
200 to 300 patients per day
Fees : as per wish of patients
That doctor using single medicine single dose at a time.
But
ЁЯШ│ЁЯШн
He using one medicine to all patients...
Ie he selecting sulphur for Saturday, puls for Sunday, thuja for Monday... Etc continues so.... (Only poly crest)
All patients getting sulphur 30 single dose. If they coming on Saturday.
Cure percentage:
Above 50 to 60 percentage
Is it homeopathic practice???
What you say???
( it is not like Belladonna (40 out of 100 cases) selection by ROH method)
He mentioned this new method as divine homeopathy....
He argued that he is doing homeopathy.???!!!!!
ЁЯШнЁЯШнЁЯШнЁЯШ│ЁЯШнЁЯШнЁЯШнЁЯШ░
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:21 PM - Ravichandaran: роиாро│ை 3 роорогி ро╡ிро╡ாрод்род்родிро▒்роХு, роГрок்ро░ெрой்роЪ் ро╣ோрооிропோрокродிропро░் родீродро░ோ роХ்ро░ாрог்роЯ் роЬாро░்роЬிрой் 6 родுропро░்ро░் роЪро░ிродைроХро│ை роОроЯுрод்родுроХ்роХொро│்ро│ роЗро░ுроХ்роХிро▒ோроо் роЕройроХாро░்роЯிропроо.,роЕроо்рок்ро░ாроХ்ро░ீро╕ா,ро╕ைроХ்ро│ாроорой ,роЯெро▓்ро▓ூро░ிропроо் ,ро╡ெро▓ேро░ிропாройா,роЕро░்роЯிроХா роЕро░рой்ро╕்,роЖроХிроп 6 рооро░ுрои்родுроХро│் ,роЕро╡ро▒்ро▒ிрой் родுропро░்ро░் роЪро░ிродைроХро│ோроЯு , роЗродுро╡ро░ை ро╡ро┤рооைропாрой рооெроЯ்роЯீро░ிропா рооெроЯிроХ்роХாро╡ிрой்,рокேроЪுрокொро░ுро│ைрод் родாрог்роЯிроп рокроЯிроороЩ்роХро│ோроЯு ро╡ிро╡ாродிрок்рокோроо்.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:23 PM - Charu Dr: Sivakumaran sir, 200 300 patients per day... ЁЯШ│ЁЯШ│ЁЯШФЁЯШФ
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:34 PM - Sivakumuran Dr: Yes charu
Crowd like house flies...
ЁЯШ│
It is BASIC Indians psychology
( where there is more crowd that is Right )
Any how
Please homeo friends
We will die one another day, but homeopathy is going to be here.
Please consider organon 6th edition though u follow any more new methods...
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯТРI am writing all this, with the belief and hope that you all will Add more glory to homeopathy.☺
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:44 PM - Ravichandaran: роХроЯைроЪி роЕроЬெрог்роЯா.
роЖроЯ்роЯோ ро▓ீро╕ро░் роХாро▓род்родுрод் родройிроо роЕроЯ்роЯро╡рогை 16 роЪெроЩ்роХுрод்родுрод் родூрог்роХро│ிро▓்92 родройிроороЩ்роХро│ை роХ்роХொрог்роЯிро░ுрои்род்родு. роЖройாро▓் 8 роХ்ро░ூрок்роХро│ிрой் роХீро┤் родொроХுрок்рокாроп்ро╡ை ро╡ிро│роХ்роХிройாро░்
2002 ро▓் родройிроо роЕроЯ்роЯро╡рогை 18 роЪெроЩ்роХுрод்родுрод் родூрог்роХро│ைрок் рокெро▒்ро▒ிро░ுрои்род்родு. ро╕்роХாро▓்роЯ்роЯройோ рооройிрод ро╡ாро┤்ро╡ிропроХ்роХрод்родிрой் 18ро╕்роЯேроЬро╕்роХро│ாроХ рооாро▒்ро▒ி роТро╡்ро╡ொро░ு ро╕்роЯேроЬро╕ுроХ்роХுроо் роЕродро▒்роХாрой родீроо்роХро│ைропுроо்рокроЯ்роЯிропро▓ிроЯ்роЯுро│்ро│ாро░். роЗрои்родрок் рокродிройெроЯ்роЯு роОрой்роХிро▒ рооாроЬிроХ் роОрог்рогிро▒்роХாрой, роХро░ுрод்родுро▓роХ роиிропாропроЩ்роХро│் роЙро│்ро│ройро╡ா роЕро▓்ро▓родு родோро░ாроп роХро░ுродுроХோро│ா роОрой ро╡ிро╡ாродிроХ்роХ роЗро░ுроХ்роХிро▒ோроо்
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:45 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Karuppiah sur. Charu. What Hahnemann changed in all his 5 editions ?? To arrive at the sixth one. In all the editions he upgraded his results from experiments to reach " the ideal cure" . He refined from crude to dynamic medicine. He went further up with how to get gentle rapid as well permanent healing. Most of the changes he made in the consecutive editions were only the application of remedies. Not the basic principle to select the remedy.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:48 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Dr. Sivakumaran . A medicine for a day. !!!! He must be a saint. Apadiye one day he can allot for viboodhi potalam. He can then call it an ashram. ЁЯШбЁЯШб
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:50 PM - Karuppaiah Dr: Dr. Prema! You are brilliant.ЁЯСН
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:51 PM - Charu Dr: Prema brilliant? ЁЯШбЁЯШбЁЯШбЁЯШПЁЯШПЁЯШП
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:51 PM - Karuppaiah Dr: I accepted charu too!
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:52 PM - Charu Dr: ЁЯШ│ЁЯШ│ЁЯШАЁЯША
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:56 PM - Karuppaiah Dr: Dr. Sivakumar experience is some what better.
I know ,One homeopath closed his eyes near the remedies and moves his hand and pick up the remedy through his prayer.
He said , the medicine was acted well??!!!
I shocked.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:57 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: So if there should be change in organon it can only be the administration of the homoeopathically selected remedy. The first 70 aphorisms which comprises the basic philosophy of homeopathy and it's principles did not see much change. Only the later practical or the application of the principles saw upgradation. Note: Only upgradation not change altogether.. And when H said this is my complete satisfied work of organon he was not making some statement, he MEANT those words.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:57 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Karuppiah sir. I hope you are not making fun of me.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:58 PM - Sivakumuran Dr: Prema
I agreed ur 1st statement ЁЯСН
But
Regarding 2nd
( He must be a saint. Apadiye one day he can allot for viboodhi potalam. He can then call it an ashram. ЁЯШбЁЯШб)
Viboodhi is our CARBO VEG...
I forget which day he using...
(Prema what is ur meaning for saint)
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 10:58 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Charu. Unaku poramai. ЁЯШИЁЯШИ
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:00 PM - GOVINDRAJ Dr: Karuppaiya sir i know that dr
Now he was a millioner
ЁЯШК
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:01 PM - Karuppaiah Dr: Dr.Prema! It is true not a fun. While i am charging him, he said it is god's wish.ЁЯШи
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:03 PM - Karuppaiah Dr: Happy to see dear govind.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:04 PM - Charu Dr: Sivakumaran sir, ungal 2 kelviku nadandha vivadhangalil ungal karuthu enna
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:09 PM - Sivakumuran Dr: We will wait for some more time charu....
We may expect some more answers...
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:09 PM - Charu Dr: Okay sir
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:10 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Dr. Sivakumaran . Certainly not the actual saint. Viboodhi carbo veg... Ama.apo one day for vepillai adikiradu something like that he can have. Please don't tell the homeopathic neem again. I hope you understand my shock .
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:10 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Funny. Most "beginners" use the infamous inky pinky pink kind also. ЁЯШПЁЯШП
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:19 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: No no sir. I said making fun for callin me brilliant. Network slow here . So my posts are delayed.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:23 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Giving A homoeopathically prepared medicine can not equal prescribing homoeopathically selected remedy.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:24 PM - Sulaimankhan: How and why
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:29 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: You can give any(single or multiple or combination) homeopathic drug picking it out of a box ... But that is not homeopathy. Only when the given drug is homoeopathically chosen that is selected upon the basic homeopathic principles, it becomes the remedy. There's the difference between a drug/medicine and a remedy .
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:30 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Am I right sulaiman sir?
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:36 PM - Sulaimankhan: Initially in my practise I give 4or 5 medicine because I want fast cure and patients also it works 80%but the failure now I go for mind and now also I am finding failure
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:39 PM - Sulaimankhan: Initially hahneman prepared medicine approximately by dipping plants in the alcohol I prepared medicine in this method and give that medicine which is new plant I find 100% result
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:47 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: When Edison made 1000 changes(wrong methods) to ultimately find the right method to make the bulb ... None repeats all his 1000 steps. I wonder why this is not the case with Hahnemann and Homeopathy. ЁЯШ│ЁЯШ│ЁЯШ│
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:50 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: But honestly Sulauman sir... Appreciate your honesty. Hats off for that sir. we can all learn Homoeopathy from scratch anytime . Best wishes sir. ЁЯШД
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:53 PM - Sulaimankhan: This I learn from our master hahnemann he said dare to be wise and accept the failure and he change the rules who said the correct one
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:54 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: ЁЯСН
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:55 PM - Sulaimankhan: In this way he accept the herrings law also
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:58 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: But sir. He has given an ultimate product and that is 6th edition of organon. Primary principles and simplified administration methods for the homoeopathically selected remedy.. We should try his final and near perfect (H himself said this) method and watch foe the results.
Sat, 22 Aug 2015, 11:58 PM - Sulaimankhan: Yes it is true
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:00 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Getting to know your experiences and experiments and every homeopathy enthusiasts sharing from this group is very educative.
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:12 AM - Charu Dr: Homoeopathy will always be a growing science
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:13 AM - Sulaimankhan: Ok I will come with new thing amazing and nobody accept also but it is true what I find I have to tell to this world later
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:14 AM - Charu Dr: Since modern science has not found answer for various phenomenon in homoeopathy we will be still discussing more things about homoeopathy with out answers in future
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:16 AM - Sulaimankhan: Once my teacher told this organon is exam only not for life but we accept some points only
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:21 AM - Charu Dr: Hahnemann is the genius.
His discovery is the most advanced science, it will be remain so for ever.
Only he can find,
How and where homoeopathy medicine act
What happens during succussions
Why to succus 10times
Why 9:1/99:1 / 1:500 ratio
What lm potencies can do
What can be used after lm potencies
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:22 AM - Charu Dr: And still the list extends
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:27 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: That was because he was not just a doctor by degree. He was a chemist. Botanist. And he excelled in many scientific fields. Which knowledge he put together to give us homeopathy. For eg. That is why he was able to differentiate roots stems flowers flowering buds and seeds leaves and whole plant and so on to choose for the medical usage from each plant of the whole plant kingdom ..
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:29 AM - Sulaimankhan: He ask the natives why you're using this plant and which part is using and then he mad experiments, Sorry made
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:31 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: To build such a huge system esp a medicine I one single person's life time is not an easy task.
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:32 AM - Sulaimankhan: If he live for just one year all the things would have been changed
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 12:38 AM - Murali Castro: 'DARE TO BE WISE'
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 7:39 AM - Sivakumuran Dr:
Prema
Agree...
Giving A homoeopathically prepared medicine can not equal prescribing homoeopathically selected remedy.
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:00 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: Sulaiman
Do you have any new methods????
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(Ok I will come with new thing amazing and nobody accept also but it is true what I find I have to tell to this world later)
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:05 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: Dear sulaiman
Regarding your following comment
(If he live for just one year all the things would have been changed)
It is our imagination..
What fault you found in ?
And what development and changes you want in organon???
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:15 AM - Sulaimankhan: First in the treatment regarding Nat.mure 30 if you giveone weak before menses it will postpond the menses I you stop te medicine the menses appesr
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:21 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: Once a doctor came,
And he started as follows ....
ЁЯОИIf Hahnemann exist for some more years......
ЁЯОИЁЯОИHe may advised acupuncture.... Because acupuncture along with homeopathy working very well...
ЁЯОИЁЯОИЁЯОИHomeopathy along with acupuncture working very well.....
ЁЯОИЁЯОИЁЯОИЁЯОИAnd he asked me to convert my practice to homeopuncture...
(=Acupuncture +homeopathy)
ЁЯМ╖I showed organon,
Hahnemann clearly mentioned that acupuncture is bad for health, and it is dangerous counterirritants too...
Homeopathy needs sincere followers of organon 6th edition.
Not any more new methods...
Thanking you all.
Take care.ЁЯТРЁЯТРЁЯТР
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:23 AM - Sulaimankhan: I accept dr sivakumar I am against accupuncture
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:26 AM - Sulaimankhan: Hahneman tell about morbific agents After his death microscope found and he defined and all the things would have been changed
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:38 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: @sivakumaran sir. Can u pls tel n which aphorism hahnemann mentioned tat... I could learn.
sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:45 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: Dear sulaiman
Regarding yours
ЁЯМ▓(First in the treatment regarding Nat.mure 30 if you giveone weak before menses it will postpond the menses I you stop te medicine the menses appesr)
ЁЯМ│ sorry it is wrong...
Also why you go against nature ..
Why you want to postpone it???
It will lead to many diseases later.
Please don't do it.
ЁЯМ▓ЁЯМ▓Don't be against acupuncture... Or allopathy or any other systems or even homeopathic new methods and patent combinations...
.ЁЯМ│ЁЯМ│.. Because they also giving some relief to suffering humanity...
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖Our job is very simple.
doing homeopathy as per principle's laid by our Master...
Here too...
ЁЯТРЁЯТРЁЯТРЁЯТРWe discussing for growing more in organon...
Nothing else.
That's all.
Take care.
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:47 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: @ dear saro
It is in introduction of organon...
ЁЯТР
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:53 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: For all who interested
Master mentioned many things...
ЁЯМ╖Dress code of homeopath,
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ way of homeopathic living..
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ how to do daily meditation...
ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ЁЯМ╖ how to face death... And more...
Please read his LESSER WRITINGS.
Take care.
Bye for now.
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 8:56 AM - Sulaimankhan: People going for temple they want to postponed the menses This was told by a patient and said the medicine name also we the people do good for humanity
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 9:00 AM - Sulaimankhan: Do you know what ocimum canum do if you consume daily 2 leaves there will be no sexual thoughts if you discontinue the thoughts will come
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 9:03 AM - Sulaimankhan: Do you know if you consume bamboo leaves you will never coceive
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 9:11 AM - Sulaimankhan: While proving medicine after symptoms appear we stop the medicine do you think after stopping the medicine it will lead to many diseases later
Sun, 23 Aug 2015, 9:19 AM - Sulaimankhan: What fault you found inand whatdevelopment and changes you want in organon?
why Hahnemann write 6 editions in organon and change some of the things
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