http://homoeopathyobserver.blogspot.in/2016/01/sulphur-ravichandran.html
Regarding the statement under this case,
Reverse also true...👍
🌷Though there is no mental symptoms... Or whatever maybe his mental symptoms or state...
When we have selected the exactly right medicine on PQRS or modalities or characteristic totality's or characteristic complete particular symptoms or physical symptoms...
Mental symptoms and state also get changed.👍
🌷🌷Life force and material organism form an indivisible whole (living organism)
🌷🌷🌷When mistunement of the life force happened,
It get expressed as mental and physical signs and symptoms.
🌷🌷🌷🌷It leads to complex perceptible symptoms. (Totality)
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷( though Totality of symptoms the sole indicator in choosing a remedy)
We can catch the similimum anywhere... Mind or physical or modalities or characteristic.... Or by totality.
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷 Of course as per 212 we can differentiate exact remedy among group of similar remedies by considering ALTERED EMOTIONAL and MENTAL STATE. If we don't have or get it no problem.
👌We can differentiate exact remedy by considering available physical symptoms itself.👌
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷 When right dynamic impingement upon life force (similimum)applied,
(whether it selected through physical or totality of symptoms doesn't matters )
it completely tune persons condition completely including his mental state too (cure).
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷 Always clinging upon mental symptoms or state is unnecessary for successful homeopathic prescriptions.
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷Conclusion:
Reach the target with available symptoms and what patients giving important and telling as his problem(s).
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷 Note:
Mental symptoms or mental state is also part of mistunement of life principle.
Don't imagine or have false belief that mental symptoms or mental state is the "what is to be cured in disease.
By doctor sivakumaran
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:18 AM - Arulmanikam:
ok accrpding to Sivakumaren sir mental state is not important and unnecessary .let i tell one case a boy constipated from birth onwards came to me he is very angry obstinate anger with stricking and throwing things quit only untill the thinks are given and shrieking before stool violent anger boy i gave one constitutional drug ..cham 30......after that 1 months stool proper regular with out laxative but again complaint repeated i raised the potency 200,1 no change,again i took the i picked up the exact present state. he is improving now for 3 month follow up -borax-----medicine given in 30 potency one dose .this case gave the idea of importants of present state. i picked the present state ----after stool the boy used to told to his father
"appa nan motion poiten pa nu perumochivitu serithukite solluran"
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Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:36 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Physical emotional mental all belongs to the same person. And every particular implies his whole. And his whole implies his each particular.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:38 AM - Saravanan dr. : Agreed... If case present wit only physicals r mind r particular then we can't expect herings law there?? Or herings law might not present in those cases during cure??
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:39 AM - Saravanan dr. : There r cases which only present with any one part.. Isn't t??
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:40 AM - Charu Dr: Hearing law not possible to appear in all cases / cures
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:46 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: We know what is hering's law and how it would be. But it doesn't appear in every patient. Right?? Does that mean there is no law of nature applied in every patient??
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:50 AM - Ilango Dr. : Herring's law of cure is must for all the cases.and it is above law of similia .plz refer history of herring's law.name was given by Kent not herring.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:52 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: @arul Dr.siva kumaran never said mind is not important.. Kindly read again his comments.. He emphasising not only go beyond mind and misinterpretation.. That's t..
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:52 AM - Saravanan dr. : Physical and general and particulars too important if present..
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:53 AM - Charu Dr: Herings law has been found scattered in chronic diseases and organon
Wherever hahnemann talking about suppression and local maladies he has mentioned the reverse order, layer by layer removal
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:54 AM - Saravanan dr. : Ilango sir if Kent (herings) law is not present during follow up is t mean case is not under cure?? Is t mandatory in every case??
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:55 AM - Jawakar dr: Saravan herings law is mandatory in all cases
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:55 AM - Arulmanikam: go and read the comments again. Saro it starts with always.......
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:56 AM - Ilango Dr. : I do agree it is difficult get in all cases but if u don't get be sure that our medicine is partial similimum.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:57 AM - Charu Dr: 👍
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:57 AM - Jawakar dr: Some cases of most syphilitc ie lk most dreaded cancer u cannot expect full recovery fr tht cases herings law may be difficult
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:57 AM - Saravanan dr. : No arul read t again..
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:58 AM - Saravanan dr. : He s clear wit his words.. Actually it s not his words.. Already lot f pioneers said including in organon..
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:58 AM - Ravichandaran: ரவிசந்திரன்
னான் ஷெகலோபதியின் ஆர்வலன் அல்ல விமர்சகன். பல ஆன்டுகளுக்கு முன் வடம் அறுந்துதடம் புரளும் ஷெகலியத்தேர் எனும் கட்டுரை எழுதி விமர்சனம் செய்தவன்
ஏன் நிலைபாடு இன்றும் ஷெகலோபதி சங்கராபதி,ஸ்கால்ட்டனோபதி எல்லஸ்மே பயன்பாட்டுக் கொள்கைகள் தான் ஹோமியொஒபதியின் அடிப்படை விதிகளல்ல.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:58 AM - Ilango Dr. : There is a beautiful article in homoeopathy in practice journal released by Dr.k.s chennai reg herring's law
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:58 AM - Charu Dr: Partial simillimum >accessory symptoms >next remedy for the current totality
Which may be,
Intercurrent
Follow well
Complements
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:00 AM - Charu Dr: We would like to learn more from Dr elango sir and dr jawahar sir
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:00 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: 🙋I too waiting.. Pls post some cases and teach us
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:03 AM - Saravanan dr. trichy: If possible let us arrange monthly or two months once a meeting and discuss cases.. An opportunity for learning various methods and even stronger n our basic ever needed hahnemannian method.. Here all giving name for their own method.. For me it's homeopathy that's all..
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:05 AM - Ravichandaran: Regarding the Law of cure
among the three observations tje last one only was observef by master hahnemann . The other two belong to hippocrates and psraselsas respectively
They r only observations not law
It was only jt kent who baptised them as law. Pl read the thought provoking article by Andre Saine.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:10 AM - Arulmanikam: Saro what is mental symptoms what is mental state?
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:23 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Without mental symptoms altogether ?? Who did that?? 😳😳
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:24 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Ravichandran sir 👍
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:24 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: We treat patients as young as one day. How do you observe herings law there??
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:29 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Herings law can be observed only when there is l
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:30 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Herings law can be observed only when there has been previous suppression of diseases. Such scenario need not or won't be seen in all patients.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:33 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Physical symptoms clear irunda take that. Mental symptoms clear ah irunda take that. If only one is there..dont ponder for the other. Because both represent the same person. Generalisation. Bienighauaen says even a physical symptoms character can be generalised for another physical or mental symptom . Say .. There is pain in neck and elbow every noon. This particular time modality can be genralised for the whole person
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:37 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: physical or mental if there is clear picture go with that. Then what is the purpose of all those physical as well as mental symptoms that we register from human proving?? It is not wrong to take mental rubric for physical symptom. But cant or rather one should not say that taking physical only is not according to law. That is a misconception of law.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:39 AM - Ravichandaran: While treating chronic diseases master hahnemanns observation asti the disappearance of symptoms in yhe reverse order of appearance may be witnessed . I am not anxiois enogh asto the pther two just because herringade that concept and lent called it a law
I feel in their anxiety to showcase homeopathy the present day gurus are creating a halo around yhe socalled law of cure
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:42 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: And cure is itself a misconceptional word by dudgeon from Hahnemann.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:42 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: In German H dint mean cure
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:43 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: he meant only to heal.. I asked a German doctor few years back... Because cure means to achieve the original state before diseases. And mind thus
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:43 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: .there is never an original state..
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:44 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Every cell changes with every second...hence cure by itself a mis Interpreted word..
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:46 AM - Ravichandaran: Initially master hshnemann proposed 3, miasms
I think A?len added one more
Later dr sankaran proposed 10 miasms in 1994 now we read more than 15 miasms from leadingagazines
Mere proliferation of working hypothesis we dont take them as ?aw or rule
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:47 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: 👍👍
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:47 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Though it works.. Still...
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:49 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Boeninghasen added tuberculinum..sir. Not allen. From my memory....
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:50 AM - Charu Dr: But hahnemann clearly said, his discovery is 3 miasm, but there may miasm complex and new miasms
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:50 AM - Ravichandaran: Histotically, rapid gentle and permanent cure concept was pre Hahnemannoan propounded in first cenyury ad by the great Celsus . Hahnemann was ver much overwelmed by it and gave it a prominent place in organon
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:53 AM - Ravichandaran: Will u include nagasaki, chernobil and bhopal miasams or not tsking into the fact that diseases iccur generarions after generations
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:54 AM - Charu Dr: Since miasm started from infection and suppression,
More infections and suppression / vaccination in modern era will bring more miasms
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:56 AM - Charu Dr: Miasm is nothing but a pattern of expression after an infection /suppression - it may hereditary = genetic
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:56 AM - Ravichandaran: Is there any international committee to regulate all these new proliferations of concepts. Or anyone can add anything?
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:57 AM - Charu Dr: No regulation committee I hope
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 10:59 AM - Charu Dr: Diabetes miasm will be ruling the future generations - it is my opinion
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:00 AM - Ravichandaran: Master hahnemann believed in germ theory and attributed the small animalcule to the then spreading asiatic cholera. Later kent didnot follow this . Are we using the concept miasm in the same sense as propounded by master hahnemann?
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:01 AM - Charu Dr: Kent followed, but kept in in the secondary importance
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:02 AM - Charu Dr: Yes we follow in the same basic ideas of hahnemann's with the new developments came after hahnemannian period
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:03 AM - Ravichandaran: peter morrel has culled out enogh data asto how kent discredited germ theory
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:06 AM - Ravichandaran: Sometimes we slip a lot for animal and mineral kigdom we follow 10miasms but in plant kingdom it is confined to 9 only who knows why
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:07 AM - Ravichandaran: I feel an internstional regulatory body is a must
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:08 AM - Charu Dr: Having regulatory body for anything is danger will kill the truth many times
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:09 AM - Charu Dr: Should be like a air, regulatory body will make us a dam water
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:09 AM - Ravichandaran: Science will always permit new research but a regulatory institution is a must
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:09 AM - Ilango Dr. : Please refer organon aforism 72,73 for miasms.Hahnemann says only 3 miasms
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:12 AM - Ravichandaran: In allopathy everybody knows david easton his book has seen 18 editions but endments are being regulated by an,international
Body
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:15 AM - Ravichandaran: Misha norland proposed Aids miasm how many practitioners have analysed cases in that fashion no guidelines in india aids cases r many but do we apply that concept here?
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:22 AM - Charu Dr: Yes sir, 3 miasm in basic, but complex disease fromation due to mixing of miasm is possible in any combination.
Aph 40,
Psora + syphilis = tubercular?
So it may give rise to new symptom patterns as we found in pre diabetic / diabetic prone cases
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:25 AM - Ravichandaran: Ok kindly analyze all the 15plus
Miasms propsed over the last decade. We differ from the master i sincerely feel
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:27 AM - Jawakar dr: Charu only 3 miasms, rest all complex of these 3 miasms only
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:29 AM - Jawakar dr: Fr eg tuberculosis means it contains inflammation part as psoric, swelling and consolidation as sycotic, cavitaion syphilitc
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:29 AM - Jawakar dr: So hw cm tuberculosis as separate miasms
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:30 AM - Jawakar dr: Even diabetes also same lk tht
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:32 AM - Ilango Dr. : Miasm based on basic pathological responses to cell injury
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:32 AM - Jawakar dr: 100% true
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:35 AM - Charu Dr: 👍
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:39 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: though he saw worthwhile work he feared future naive
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:39 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: H agreed to beoninghhausen's tuberculinum...after so much hesitation
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:39 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: though he saw worthwhile work in beoning's tuber miasm he feared future naive doctors might keep adding according to every whim .. And it is happening now.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:39 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Charu.. Miasma can he added H told ah??? Where pa? Source please to confirm for myself...
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:42 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: H believed in germ theory??? Is not the whole concept of homeopathy is against germ theory?? Or that is what i understood all this time.?!?! Sutham.. All these days I have known nothing correctly pola.. 😳😳😳😳
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:43 AM - Charu Dr: Complexity of miasms 1+1
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:45 AM - Charu Dr: Hahnemann said
Microorganisms are not the primary cause, don't treat the germs, but he never told there are no microorganisms
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:46 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: If germ theory is true then that means vaccinations concept is correct . No way. H was not ok with vaccinations. Refer aphorism 57 footnote to isopathy theory explanation..
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:46 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: 😳😳😳😳😳😳
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:46 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Charu 1 plus 1 equal to two nu solla thus is not abstract science nu needane pa mela sonne... Then how??
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:47 AM - Charu Dr: Ayayo wait I will summarise my point clearly
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:48 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: Ofcourse. Not denying germs. But they are never the cause.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:49 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: 😝😝😝
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:49 AM - Prema Dgl Dr: If we have to compose a miasm for each disease...avlodan..
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:53 AM - Ravichandaran: Even a strong culture of salmonella typhiwas swalloweds by a russian doctor he didnot get typhoid demonstrating the vital force theory. But these are later days exprriments but master believed in small animalcule lying in the dust ridden cirners of the asian ships that brought asiatic cholera
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 11:59 AM - Ravichandaran: That is why it is strongly felt the necessity of an international body to regulate the newfangled love for mere prolifearation of concepts and working hypothesis. As otherwisw only chaos will prevail.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 12:08 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Germs not denied
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 12:08 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: but they are never the cause. H did hint on germs but by that he never meant they are the original cause.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 12:10 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Whom do you think should represent such a governing body?? Sir..ingeye kudimi pidi sandai vandidum. Not possible na.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 12:12 PM - Ilango Dr. thanjai: Plz read chronic diseases preface to know abt miasm and how Hahnemann has predicted abt us in reference to miasmatic understanding
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 12:13 PM - Ravichandaran: No it would be possible kudumi pidi sandai ennikku illa ella kaalaththilum unduthane athukkaga institutins create psnnamal iruntha how to regulate?
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 12:14 PM - Prema Dgl Dr: Hmmm.. Such a body Vanda Dan theriyum. Till then cant predict. 👍
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 12:16 PM - Ravichandaran: First of all we need to have repertorues incorporating all the newly discovered miasams classifying the remedies under it as kent logicslly did it in his introducyion to jis repertory so that rveruone would follw
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 12:17 PM - Ravichandaran: Everyone
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 12:24 PM - Ravichandaran: Philadelphia homeopathy collegela herrig george royal and lippe adichchkkathaths? Even then internationsl homeopathic federations ella kalaththilun gunction pannichche modern gurus ellarum vithalkause students tjane one synthesis is still possible
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 2:48 PM - Semparuthi dr. : WHY WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND MIASM
Basic function of living cell
1. Generation
2. Reproduction
3. Defense
PHYSIOLOGY OF DEFENSE
PRIMARY DEFENSE
Inflammation, Irritability, Hypersensitivity, Hyposensitivity
SECONDARY DEFENSE
Morphological constructive
Excess multiplication of cell
THIRD DEFENSE
Disorder in defense results in Destruction
This is from Pathology...
CHRONIC DISEASE Author's preface To the first edition - 1828. By Samuel Hahnemann
But in communicating to the world this great discovery, I am sorry that I must doubt whether my contemporaries will comprehend the logical sequence of these teachings of mine, and will follow them carefully and gain thereby the infinite benefits for suffering humanity which must inevitably spring from a faithful and accurate observance of the same; or whether, frightened away by the unheard of nature of many of these disclosures, they will not rather leave them untried and uninitiated and, therefore useless.
APHORISM 74
Among chronic diseases we must still, alas! reckon those so commonly met with, artificially produced in allopathic treatment by the prolonged use of violent heroic medicines in large and increasing doses, by the abuse of —---— ..etc., whereby the vital force ["vital energy" in the Sixth Edition] is sometimes weakened to an unmerciful extent, sometimes, if it do not succumb, gradually abnormally deranged (by each substance in a peculiar manner) in such a way that
, in order to maintain life against these inimical and destructive attacks, it must produce a revolution in the organism, and either deprive some part of its irritability and sensibility, (PSORA)or exalt these to an excessive degree, cause dilatation or contraction, relaxation or induration (SYCOSIS)or even total destruction of certain parts, and develop faulty organic alterations here and there in the interior or the exterior (SYPHILIS)(1) (cripple the body internally or externally), in order to preserve the organism from complete destruction of life by the ever-renewed, hostile assaults of such destructive forces.
So there are only three miasms....
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 7:15 PM - Ravichandaran: Dr. Prakash Rao , myentor , attached to puduchery ccrh research unit is carrying out some meaningfil work in heamophilia research . He is pragmatic yet wedded to hahnemannian homoeopathy. When i encounter any problem on understsmding the case i always look forward to him for giidance. Many atimes we have have organised conferences with him at chennai.
Wed, 5 Aug 2015, 9:47 PM - Ravichandaran: Good this is strictly Hahnemannian.
But ,day in day out , more than 15miasms are propounded
In books and conferences
leading to nowhere.
Thu, 6 Aug 2015, 7:14 AM - Sivakumuran Dr:
🌷Each symptom having its own miasms...
🌷🌷Each remedy having its own miasms
🌷🌷🌷Miasm expressed by signs and symptoms...
🌷🌷🌷🌷Where there is correct symptoms similarities...
Miasmatic similarity comes its own accord...
Thu, 6 Aug 2015, 8:14 AM - Sivakumuran Dr: For Example
A case of synovial sarcoma
Pain throbbing
Prickly soreness..
Slightest movements agg..
Etc...
Bryonia alba 0/1
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